You girls are so much faster than I am - LOL! OK, so I have researched the ink pads in depth. Being that I am not one to rely on other people's work I did my own test back in June but just haven't had the time to upload the information I discovered. I guess this foot injury is coming in handy after all! Thank goodness I had all the work done, I even had my test sheet scanned - LOL! So here are the answers to the long awaited ink pad questions.
Each one of these butterflies was stamped in the same manner, but I used different ink pads. The name of each ink pad is listed next to the image. The wings on the left side of the butterfly were colored before heat setting - those on the right were heat set before coloring. Following are the differences from wing to wing:
- top left wing - Sketch markers only,
- bottom left wing - Sketch markers and Colorless Blender,
- bottom right wing - Sketch markers and Colorless Blender after heat setting,
- top right wing - Colorless Blender only after heat setting
My favorite ink results are as follows:
- Tsukineko Brilliance (if patient you can wait for it to dry and color without heat setting - this is the method I used in my testing. Typically though I am rather impatient and therefore I need to heat set my image first Ü). By studying the results to my little experiement I had an aha moment. Lo and behold pigment inks were awesome! (Fabrico Craft is another example of a pigment ink.) It was one of those duh moments! Of course pigment inks will work great - that is why COPIC makes a small multiliner for drawing details that is PIGMENT. SO if you have a pigment pad try it first before running out and buying something new Ü BTW I am working at getting these pens uploaded as well - hopefully in the next couple of days. I have already uploaded the Brilliance Black and Coffee Bean, so if you do not have a pigment pad that you are happy with these will be an awesome addition to your stamping collection.
- Adirondack (this dye ink is AMAZING! I don't know if it is due to the fact that Ranger makes alcohol inks, but I'm LOVING this ink with the COPIC markers.) I can highly recommend it and that is why I have added it to my webstore. It is actually my first choice due to it's quick drying time, but I listed it second being that I don't want to sell you a product that you don't need. If you already have a pigment pad that will work with your COPIC markers you don't need this one (or perhaps maybe you do if you have to have it all - LOL Ü). Being that I don't always like to use a black ink I also added the Espresso for a rich deep brown to use in stamping your images. I feel REALLY good about using this ink with the COPIC markers! Just you watch - pretty soon all my competitors are going to have it in their stores too - LOL!
Sadly, I just can not recommend the Palette ink pads for use with the COPIC markers - the results are always "iffy" at best, sometimes it works and other times it doesn't. If you want consistency you need to either use a pigment ink or the Adirondack. I hope that the document that I have attached above can be viewed in a large enough format so that you can easily see the results for yourself. You will notice that many of the inks do a "so, so" job without the Colorless Blender, but as soon as the solvent is added you end up with a mess. The Colorless Blender is a tool that is a must have for COPIC users and I will share those reasons in the coming days (and months). Have you heard the term "trust me" - LOL! Well please trust me on this one - it is amazing the techniques that you can use the blender pen for. As time allows I will share more and more with you regarding these fabulous tools.
Again I know that these are expensive markers, but I want you to know that I will not sell a product that I don't believe is a good VALUE for what it is. I believe in the Lifetime aspect of the products I purchase - these markers will be around for your lifetime and therefore I feel good about this investment in color. Thanks again for stopping by AND for your patience with me. It is always my goal to educate, educate, educate - the rest is then up to you Ü
Hi Ellen, based on your recommendation for inks to use with Copics, a friend of mine and I each bought the Adirondack Pitch Black ink pad and was extremely disappointed. The ink is sooo wet, it's unbelievable. You actually have to take the stamp to the ink pad to avoid a gloopy mess, and then you have to wait nearly an hour for it to dry, which I did rather than using a hair dryer or heat gun to dry it. I then began to color my image only to have it smear, so then I had to spend time cleaning my copic marker end. I think I will be glad next week when the Memento ink pad turns up, which seems to be the only ink pad that is excellent for use with Copics.
Posted by: Donna | May 12, 2009 at 09:47 AM
Thank You for the ink testing.
I was having problems.
Wonderful!
Great blog.. Thanks for all your sharing!.
Posted by: marja | October 11, 2008 at 09:37 AM
I am so happy I found these tips! I was finally able to color using my COPICs with out the ink running. Thanks so much.
Posted by: Angeles | March 31, 2008 at 10:36 PM
have I told you how much I appreciate you!? Someone just linked me up to your post here--I am going to try the Adirondack and hopefully it will work for both Copic and magic colored pencil (gamsol) technique! I had a bad ink weekend--you think with all the black inks I have that something would do double-duty, LOL!
Posted by: liannallama | February 11, 2008 at 01:33 PM
Interesting. I've never had any problems with the Palette ink bleeding. What type of paper are you using? I wonder if that could be part of the issue. Not only ink but the ink/ paper combination.
Posted by: Jeanne S | August 26, 2007 at 05:19 PM
wow, that's great information! Thank you for sharing your results!
Posted by: emilymomto3boys | August 24, 2007 at 11:05 AM
Ellen, This is soooo helpful. I've been experimenting with the Copics myself and there is definitely a huge learning curve that I need to overcome! Your tutorials help tremendously! As some of the others have asked, does the paper used make a difference?
Posted by: ann i | August 07, 2007 at 07:36 AM
Ellen, your blog is jammed packed with info. I am so curious about the Copic markers. If one were to start out with the Copic Markers, which colors would you suggest? buy certain ones individually or one of the sets? Does it matter what type of paper is used?
Posted by: Tory E | August 06, 2007 at 10:55 PM
Thank you so much for all the helpful information! Guess what my birthday $$ will be spent on?? LOL! I am also wondering about your preference in paper---if you have one! :0)
Posted by: Carrie Flanagan | August 06, 2007 at 10:18 PM
You have just got THE BEST information in your blog and that must be why I always come to you to get fantastic unbiased opinions. Thank you!
Posted by: Linda | August 06, 2007 at 05:43 PM
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this research on the inks with the Copic Markers. Do you think the paper has any impact on the results? What type did you use? Thank you again!
Melissa
Posted by: Melissa | August 06, 2007 at 03:03 PM
Ellen you are always giving us so much information, Thank-you. I have been using the copic markers but this evening tried them with the Brilliance ink and it was so much better. Thanks!
Posted by: Teresa | August 05, 2007 at 11:02 PM
Great information, Ellen. Thank you!!
Posted by: Rose Ann | August 05, 2007 at 09:24 PM
You rock, babe! I love ya!! :)
Posted by: trudee | August 05, 2007 at 08:38 PM
Ellen - Thank you for all this work on our behalf! I guess I need to place an order soon! Thanks for pointing out that the blender creates a need for special ink even when the markers may not. I want to learn to use these, and I think you have talked me into getting the airbrush system. Oh, I know you didn't say anything or push it on me, but now somehow after reading all this, I NEED it! :)
Posted by: Ruth Gore | August 05, 2007 at 02:48 PM
Thank you so much for sharing your results with the different ink pads when using the Sketch markers and blender ... very helpful. How big a factor is paper choice in this? Could that affect your results? Somewhere I read that Georgia Pacific cardstock from Walmart or Sam's was the best for use with the Copics and would welcome your expert opinion please.
Thank you again.
Colleen
Posted by: Colleen | August 05, 2007 at 02:26 PM
You put soooooo much into your work and are such a blessing to us!! Your examples are FANTASTIC and can be seen VERY WELL. I love what you did, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!
Posted by: Juanita | August 05, 2007 at 01:19 PM
A huge thank you and I am so glad you agree about the Palette ink pads and copics. I thought it was just me. I'm working on a review of the copics for my blog and I'll be sure to reference this posting. You rock!!
Posted by: Joan B | August 05, 2007 at 01:10 PM
Thanks Ellen! I guess my opinion is no good as you have proved me wrong! I posted a comment in replying to Joan in your other post and guess it was wrong. It is interesting as I have been using the Palette ink on the Paper Trey Stampers Select and heat set it. Have NOT had any problems with smearing when using the Copics. I have not used the Colorless Blender though. So would probably have run into what you pointed out above. Joan, if you are reading this, ignore my opinion!
Posted by: KathyN | August 05, 2007 at 01:09 PM
Thanks for taking the time (guess you have a lot of that these days!) to upload this chart. This will be a big help.
Posted by: Peggy Maier | August 05, 2007 at 12:22 PM
Ellen - thanks for the great info on the best ink pads to use with the Copic markers. I haven't yet bought any of the markers, but I'm really intrigued. I keep telling myself I already have plenty of options for coloring, but that little voice still tells me I need to try the Copics! What colors would you recommend should be the first purchased if buying individually rather than one of the sets? Thanks!
Kerry
Posted by: Kerry | August 05, 2007 at 12:21 PM